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Haha, Texas, yes, it’s like a mix of 80’s and Mumford. I would hope that Adam can grasp a piece of “the sound” that gets him heard more next time around.
Lulz. Whatever he does, Glamberts will drive sales.
Vintage Trouble on Leno tomorrow night. Set yer DVR’s. They are soooooo good!
Aren’t Cher’s pants similar to the ones Adam received from that Australian(?) girl DJ? Or maybe I’m confusing them with the zebra pants.
I’m afraid the Mumford sound will be on it’s way out by the time Adam has music out. Unless, of course, it’s the trend for a couple of years. I just don’t care for that sound but that’s just me. A station turner when I’m in the car.
Me, too, mils. It always makes me want to get up and move!
And a very good morning right back atcha, Texas!
Yea, I am not implying that Adam should sound Mumfordy, just hoping that he can catch onto something that will get him played here.
I am soooo over that sound. But, then again, I am not a target demographic, and younger kids like it a lot. The group that was on SNL last night was really really good, IMHO. Phoenix.
mils…just watched the playback of SNL. Funny show! That opening skit with the subtitles about same sex marriage was a hoot!. Yes, Phoenix was good. Melissa McCarthy is genius!
Am watching Hammersmith DVD now. Ah Queenbert, will it ever happen here?
This was just re-posted on twitter in case people haven’t seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_IDkQgIDj4
Very insightful fan.
http://aleksandrakv.tumblr.com/post/47365921291/the-necessary-closure-and-by-accident-yet-another#_=_
Yep, rs, I think this pretty much sums it up, unfortunately. I actually suspect they were doing ok through the summer (given Adam’s shoutouts to Sauli from the stage), but then toward late fall/early winter it started to wear down and come apart. Sadz. Oh well. Life happens to all of us.
On to professional matters – this is a new promo for the RIFT video game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOWL2txIsA
This is much better than the one that looks like he’s reading a teleprompter in a hallway!
luval – I had never seen that high school video – thanks for posting! Wow, that’s a blast from the past. Adam sounded good. The girls? Not so much!
OMG luval. So funnny! never saw that before. Thanks. There’s glimmers of him in there, so holding back, like he does in groups.
luval, that tumblr was so very sweet and so perfect. Thanks for sharing.
I am mesmerized by Adam in Hammersmith . Never thought I’d say this but I almost like it better than Kiev. So real and he’s so thin!
Totally agree luval. That July 14th show has been my “thing” ever since. I remember seeing him in Des Moines exactly two weeks later, and I just couldn’t believe that he was standing on a stage mere feet from me after all the epic-ness of Queenbert. I kept thinking “two weeks ago tonight he was sparkling in his zebra pants and with Queen and all that adulation, and now, here he is sandwiched between Neon Tees and Train and in a literal field in Iowa.”
And, meeting Suz and several gals who had been to the London shows, in Iowa. Now, that’s fan dedication!!
mils That’s what I love so much about this fandom, everyone here and of course Adam F Lambert. You never know what you’re gonna get or where you’re gonna get it!
Thanks for posting that luval. It was beautiful. And she said so much better what I tried to say a few pages back when I said that he wouldn’t talk about what happened but that he would share his emotions with us through the music that he tweets and will write.
luval, while I love Kiev for the professional video, the crowd, voice, and the event itself, I adore Hammersmith because he was so much more relaxed in his interaction with Brian and Roger and he was obviously having sooooooooo much fun. Of course the fact that I was there for the first two shows (not this one) just adds to my love for it.
I think that tumblr incorporates everything that you, rs, and everyone here who’s posted their thoughts, wanted to convey. I pretty much had nothing to say but agree with you all in many ways.
And yes, about Kiev compared to Hammersmith 3 dvd. Glad there’s a Brian/Roger duet now…have to attend to my dirty clothes!
Anyone care about another picture from last night? With gorgeous women, of course.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151405947159091&l=21b0a106ea
Adam was there… a mention of him from Friday night fight(?)
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jaime-pressly-estella-warren-questioned-by-police-after-fight-at-hollywood-hotspot-bootsy-bellows-201374
And has it been 4 years already?
RT @LAMBERTLUST: 4 yrs ago today Adam Lambert gets the 1st & only standing ovation from Simon Cowell ever on… http://fb.me/25t4mI3mR
That last day at Hammersmith was the best concert IMO, hands down, that I have ever seen. (Finland is a close second). My all time favorite band and songs and singer all in one. I am so glad I made the effort to get the ticket. I only had tickets to the first 2 nights, which were fantastic but the emotion/feelings of that last night was magic. Now, having the DVD I can kind of relive it over and over! I am still really hoping for more.
Looks like Adam is mingling again….and he is cute!
I agree. Thanks for posting it, luval. Very insightful and articulate, and I think she’s spot on.
So I read pages and pages of articulate and thoughtful responses to Adam’s breakup. (BTW, it was lovely to be remembered and my absence noted by some posters!)
There is much here with which to agree, and none of us are in a position to say that any of our musings aren’t accurate. We “know” Adam to the extent that he allows us to know him, and he is very generous, but of course we are not privy to everything in his personal life (nor should we be).
I’d like to add one more thought, if it isn’t too late to put in my deux sous.
Adam has often said that he wanted a loving and committed relationship, but he has consistently shrugged off the issue of marriage for himself (although clearly in favor for others of his community) and I cannot remember him ever saying that he was looking for a forever life partner.
It may be that what suits Adam best is serial monogamy. Most of us here on the blog are or have been in committed very long-term relationships, and that is our societal norm, and it may color our perceptions of Adam’s relationships and what we think he wants. As soon as he and Sauli were an item, peeps here and everywhere were immediately hoping that he had found his life partner. But maybe that wasn’t Adam’s hope at all.
His life and career, his tastes and habits, are evolving and changing – it is hard to imagine any one partner for Adam who would be able to morph with him – and that mythical partner would almost certainly be someone who is not himself sufficiently independent and strong to be a good match for any one of the evolving Adams.
We know that Adam keeps his friends close, and that he has a strong and supportive inner circle who have known him and loved him and protected his privacy for all of his adult life. Is it so strange to think that this group collectively is his “life partner”, and that he additionally seeks relationships of various durations that stretch and challenge and teach him new things about himself and others, and that provide the physical and emotional intimacy that his inner circle cannot fulfill?
And it may well be that Adam will want a more traditional life partner in the future, when he has the luxury of time that an established and successful career provides, and when his personal development has achieved a more even keel, and when one individual could more realistically be his partner for the remainder of his life.
From what I know about Adam from the outside looking in, this seems to be the life that he embraces and that suits him best. Does that make it easy to break up with a lover? Of course not. But it also keeps a breakup from being the sad and tragic end that it would be for someone who was in fact looking for a single soulmate for life and had his heart set on that.
Adam’s recent “out and about” evenings seem to be genuinely happy ones – he has said numerous times that he loves to go clubbing and meet new people – he has even said that the brief connections can be very positive and that he enjoys them. (Albeit with the caveat that longer and more loving relationships – even though serial – are important, also.)
I am excited to see who Adam might meet next, and I think that he is, too. And when that happens, perhaps we shouldn’t immediately assume that he has found the life partner that he (wisely, IMHO) may not even want yet.
I am definitely impatient for his new music (tap, tap, tap…) but totally content to watch his love life play out in Adam’s way and on Adam’s timeline, and I think that is what we are seeing.
Them’s my thoughts, and I think there is nothing to worry about.
Kradamour
Cela semble parfait pour moi!
Perfect post, Kradamour!!
Many of us watch The Voice (including me!). From Saturday night live last night with Melissa McCarthy. (from mj’s)
http://www.mjsbigblog.com/the-voice-saturday-night-live-parody-feat-melissa-mccarthy-video.htm
Kradamour, very well said. Nice to have your voice back!
Also love the tumblr posted by luval.
Don’t know how, but I completely missed this Shanghai “Stay/Underneath,” a more passionate expressive version than the quieter, more introspective ones from other locations. Really loving it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJR4K9SwlzY
(I have this song in my head since Ireland, cannot stop hearing it. And hubby confessed today that he has Shady in his head LOL. Lucky guy.)
riskylady, it’s strange about Shady. I know three guys who like that song and only that song from Trespassing.
Yep, I watch The Voice as well. This segment from SNL last night was hilarious!
I love Melissa McCarthy!
Where is glambotgram? Miss you!
Great post, Kradamour. Serial monogamy is exactly what came to mind for me when I listened to Adam talk about his beliefs about “soulmates” in the video that aely posted a couple of pages back – that he may have a few different soulmates in his lifetime, and that from each he will learn what he needs to learn and grow in ways that he needs to grow – and recalled both Adam’s and Sauli’s clear “no” responses to questions about whether they had plans to get married. It’s quite plausible that they decided, probably with some pain, that the relationship had served its primary purpose in their lives and that it was time for the next phase of life, especially since it was getting harder and harder to balance the relationship with their dual careers. It also enables them to still love each other as friends, honoring and appreciating what they meant to each other in their life journeys.
It really is fascinating to watch life unfold for Adam, to the degree that he lets us in. He lives it so fully, passionately, and honestly… and differently from many of us. I look forward to reading his memoir many years from now. But in the meantime, the gifts and insights he gives us through his music serve as the best memoir possible.
A retweet by Adam. He loves this pop stuff
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YT Video Tweeted by @adamlambert: .@belindaofficial … gorgeous … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn8qryIMs1I ……
riskylady: thanks for posting the Shanghai “Stay/Underneath”. I missed it as well. By now I have a nice Stay/Underneath collection going.
Very nice. Great to see that Belinda Carlisle is back. I always loved her back in the day…college years, Go-Go’s…early MTV.
One more musing. I do remember Adam saying on several occasions that he did see himself getting married someday, to the right person at the right time. But, since Sauli whenever he was asked about marrying soon, he always dodged the question and gave a very politically correct answer, which may have been hurtful to Sauli, in hindsight.
Why stay together if you don’t see the relationship as endgame? Adam is both too young and too old to “waste” time on something that isn’t going anywhere.
Serial monogamy is great, for some people. Unfortunately, one night stands will make him tabloid fodder at this point in his life. IMHO. He’s gotta tread carefully from here on out.
Personally, I hope he disappears a bit and writes his face off, then sings his face off to record, and gets his tush out on the road.
He’ll be on Idol soon with his “Where are they now?” thing, won’t he?
He does have a crazy travel schedule this next couple of weeks, including China again, doesn’t he?
Gotta go. This sinus/cough thing has had me yucky for too many weeks now…need steam.
I do see a Chinese or Asian boyfriend sometime, just saying…
Krads, nice to see you back.
Thanks, mils!
ETA: just read up the thread – thanks for all welcome backs!
Oooh, Belinda Carlisle! She lived in Paris for a while and recorded a wonderful album in French. Can’t remember the name of it but it was a combination of pop and Edith-Piaf style chansons. I love it. Didn’t know about her other music until after I heard that album.
#embarrassinglyoutoftheAmericanmusicloop
Agree on all counts. Without significant mainstream musical success, Adam does run the risk of being famous for being famous…and that would only reduce his credibility.
I think that serial monogamy is a safe path, though, even for a gay man, as long as it isn’t full of angst and drama.
You know it is interesting what krad said. She is explaining me with “not norm” and I get questioned all the time. My last relationship I was in for close to 13 years. I have never wanted to get married or have children and neither did my boyfriend. We loved our independence and loved to travel all over the world and both had jobs that had us traveling most of each week. It really worked for us. Then, he just changed his mind a year or so ago. He wanted it all, staying home, children and marriage. At first, I thought it was a phase because his grandfather just passed and sometimes that throws you into thinking different things. Then I realized it was not a phase and we have to break up. I still love him and we still talk but he wants things that I just cannot give him and if he or I caved in it wouldn’t have worked in the long run. Resentment would have set in. So, he is happy and so am I and we left while we were still happy. To this day I still get, you all were so cute together, you seemed to really have a strong relationship, why didn’t you just get married, you work with children why wouldn’t you want them-are you selfish….etc…Granted not from my close friends and family-they get it. Sometimes you sacrifice knowing you are doing the right thing to be happy in the long run. So, after reading everything and really thinking about it, I get it and can really relate.
Kradamour‘s been away?!
I didn’t notice.
Welcome home, Kradamour!
I enjoyed reading your post, always thoughtful and well reasoned, about Adam and Sauli.
mils, today I bought the blu ray of “Hello Dolly!”. Stunning!! The details, the clarity, the bright reds! That gold gown for the Dolly number sparkles and glistens all over the place! I never noticed that before in any of the previous Dolly releases.
HK Fan, you said last year that you “promised” me that you would watch a Barbra Streisand movie this year.
I’m good at remembering little things like that and … it’s this year now. We’re four months into this year now.
How you’ve managed to live your life without ever seeing a Barbra movie is beyond me.
“It’s always best to start at the beginning
and all you have to do is follow the yellow brick road” so you could watch her first movie “Funny Girl”. Academy award for best actress. Not bad for starters. Good choice! But if you want to skip to her second movie, for sheer spectacle and dance numbers, music, and costumes, I won’t mind if you choose “Hello Dolly!”I can’t look at “Hello Dolly!” though without thinking about the horrific and horrible death that Danny Lockin (Barnaby Tucker) suffered. Unimaginable. His dancing in the movie is extraordinary! So much exuberance, vitality and so full of life and to have that life snuffed out by a madman who only served 3 years in prison for murdering him is incomprehensible.
Anyway, on that happy note, I’ve always thought that Dolly is one of the most attractive movies to watch that’s ever been made. The production values are among the best ever put on film.
One of my many hopes for Adam’s future is that he’ll have a featured role in a movie musical. Not the male lead as I once envisioned him doing in “Sunset Boulevard”, if that will ever be made into a movie, but instead an outstanding supporting role in something.
What would that be though?
This is what I worry about too.
Interesting postaely. Resentment rears it’s head very often when couples don’t communicate their true feelings. Can go on for years.
Ron, I go to Maine and come back to find your new avi, I almost didn’t recognize you!
But then I noticed the tongue firmly planted in the cheek, and it gave you right away!
I’m blockquoting myself.
Got it.
I think.
I don’t know.
Something like the role of “Freddy” in “My Fair Lady” who sings “On The Street Where You Live”.
And OOOOOOOHHHHHHH, the towering feeling
Whoever played that part in the movie, in one of my least favorite musicals, didn’t make a very good impression on me but something like that for Adam.
A featured role in a special spot in a movie where he could just shine.
Universe, make it so.
Universe, what Ron said.
Please.
Ron, I have seen Little Fockers…does that count?
I don’t think the not getting married thing was an issue, as Sauli has also said in and interview that he didn’t want to get married…I think.
My brother has been with his girlfriend nearly 20 years, don’t think they will ever get married, my sister in law has been with her partner over 12 years, has 2 kids with him, no plans on getting married.
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Yes, you’re right HK fan – Sauli did say that he was not planning on getting married (or didn’t want to get married, I can’t remember) in a fairly recent interview in Finland. I think it was that TV talk show he was on. In fact, I remember being struck at the time by the certainty with which he said it. Kind of a cheerful “Married? Why should I?” (or maybe it was “why should we?” again, I can’t remember) sort of response. Of course, depending on the timing, the writing may have already been on the wall regarding their relationship.
NO, dismiss that immediately!!
We need a do over!
Go back to early Barbra! Musicals! Her singing!
“Funny Girl”. “Hello Dolly!” “On A Clear Day You Can See Forever” … (that one, “Clear Day” not so much).
You never saw “The Way We Were”
I’m looking up flights to Hong Kong right now because this is an emergency.
You need serious Barbra help and I can help you.
Ready for more morning musings? I know, I know, I said no more analyses, but I read all these thoughtful posts here and then wake up with more thoughts and read some more thoughtful posts here…So I had another thought. It is all good, though, because I see that it is a process that I am going through in accepting that this break-up was probably for the best. (lol, ALL as therapist!)
I won’t block quote all the relevant bits, but thanks to kradamour, cwm, riskylady, aely, mils, and others. What started me thinking was the reference to serial monogamy. Adam has stated that at some point in his life he wants to settle down and have a family, just not yet, and he did assertively shoot down any questions about marriage when related to him and Sauli. I always wondered how Sauli felt about that. So now I am thinking, was he relating in his answers to the time frame (not ready to get married now) or to the person (not gonna marry Sauli). Correct me if I am wrong, but his answer was usually a pretty short “no” with a smile, not a “not yet”. So I am beginning to think that while Adam and Sauli had a fantastic relationship and were very much in love, Adam might not have seen Sauli as someone that he could “grow old with”. They are perfect for each other in so many ways, and Sauli is sunshine and brightness to counter Adam’s dark side. But Adam is also an intellectual and a reader and I am not sure that he and Sauli are compatible in that area. I am not saying that Sauli isn’t very intelligent and thoughtful. He has to be to have gotten to where he is. I guess that I am wondering whether they could communicate when ”it is that deep”. I have had a niggling thing about this in the back of my mind (which I never told anyone, not even you riskylady) since they first got together. I might be totally off the mark here, but in a long term life partner Adam needs someone who he can communicate totally with on all levels. Maybe that Broken English in Helsinki was even more significant that we knew.
ETA, I hadn’t read the latest posts about Sauli’s views on marriage from cwm and HKFan while I was writing this.
LOL rs, there is one main reason I’m replying to your post: JETLAG. But, I do agree. Sauli is delightful and obviously has natural intelligence and well-thought-out deep philosophical beliefs about life, which I believe he and Adam shared. He said this in one of his interviews. But as you said, Adam is very much a reader and intellectual – I’ve always thought so too, there is so much behind that gaze that we probably will never know (until the memoirs). I think that is a big part of his amazing charisma.
And lest we forget, Adam’s music is quite successful outside our borders.
Oh poor riskylady! Jetlag is a bummer. But so nice to see you here. Now I have to go and get on with my day. Try and get some sleep. Put some soothing Adam music on your ipod and let him lull you to nirvanah. Works for me (sometimes).
rs – I know what you mean. I too have always wondered if that was one (important) area in which they weren’t entirely compatible.
I’m glad I’m not the only one still musing over this! Still find myself turning it over in my head and in my heart. I know they’ll both be fine, and we can figure out all kinds of narratives to explain and justify the break-up and look forward to new beginnings for Adam, but I’m still feeling in a bit of a mourning period over the loss of what was obviously a very loving relationship – one that inspired a lot of people and changed a lot of hearts and minds. What can I say, I love love.
I’ll get over it, but I’m still just feeling a little sad for them and the hurting they have most likely gone through in the process of letting go.